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Welp.
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Just wow.
So whats the story going to be? Drunk? High? Hacked? Or own it and double down?
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The Fuck!??
Between the comments on the FP, The Drive, and Reddit about the Loser Southerners flag ban in Forza; the general comments about the noose in NASCAR, and now that twit, I am absolutely convinced that car culture is racist AF and possibly irredeemable.
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Oof. That was a website I always meant to go to more often. Guess not
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So....what does this mean?
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Looks like I’m going to have to get my suffocatingly smug automotive content elsewhere
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A better tweet appeared in the related posts section
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Used to really like their stuff, but not so much recently. Then they added the “gold membership”... wah wah wah. I have a few prints from them but I have received two that were really badly done (and they are not cheap).... now this...Bye clowns (I’ma be saying this a lot I feel like)
The 2/3 prints I have aren’t branded and the 3 one is but has been “framed out” looks like I’m ahead of the game.
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Former Petrolicious employee (and excellent car photographer) Ted Gushue’s Instagram story gives some context (and criticism, although I’d suggest he didn’t go far enough).
In short, I unfollowed Petrolicious and followed Ted instead.
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Hey man, Jalopnik is literally one click away
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I had to read the thread to get to the post in question. some context/explanation (read Chapparal 2K’s tweet) -
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So brave of him indeed. Unsubscribed.
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Safe to say the latter--he’s blocking
and reporting anyone who comments critically.
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Petrolicious: Very good car videos, Very bad takes.
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I’m waiting to see the non-apology apology picked straight from the racists’ handbook
“This is not who I am blah blah blah”
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I’ve tried to w ade into the bullshit on The Drive, but goddamn is it bad. There was an article on a Porsche employee who ran a scam, and the comments regarding his race (indeterminate non-white) were fucking awful.
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“I’m sorry if anyone was offended”
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I love to read defense stuff but d on’t read the comment section of “War Zone” in Drive on anything even remotely related to politics- policies, procedures,funding, Dear Leader’s comments on anything military related, russia or NATO for example. Absolute Shitshow that would put a fox news comment section to same.
The more technical the article is the more genuinely informative and better the quality of comments.
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Means you’ll have to look somewhere else for pretentious car “films” featuring driving with expensive Italian leather gloves and shoes.
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But Oppo is zero clicks away
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A content creator that is far too online thinks contrarianism is a deep political philosophy
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That the guy’s an asshole?
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Depends where you’re at. When I go to hot rod and custom motorcycle cycle stuff in South Phoenix and downtown, there’s a lot of diversity. However, I went to two hot rod shops yesterday looking for an air filter and it was all white guys complaining about BLM. There was a big car show in LA last weekend showing support.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7.com/amp/blm-la-lowriders-black-lives-matter-pico-rivera/6279916/
I try not to judge people on the internet, but it does seem there are even Oppo’s who don’t get out much.
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I wouldn’t call BLM domestic terrorism but i definitely would say that an argument could be made for the second post due to a combination of factors, social, cultural, and economically, access to and responsible planning of families, contraceptives, safe practices, etc. As of 2018 65% of black children were in single parent homes per
Its not a stretch to have a conversation about that i suppose.
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Well, I have no experience with Petrolicious beyond being familiar with the name, so that doesn’t help. Has the entire enterprise been torpedoed?
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I’ve actually seen some really creative General Lee’s since the Forza ban. My favorite was a weathered look where there was a non faded rectangle on the roof with splotches of sticker residue and very small scraps of a faded flag left over. It was a really convincing job that a flag had been on the roof for a long time but had been removed. I’m enjoying seeing how people are approaching replicating an iconic movie car while removing the racist symbolism found on it.
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What happened?
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Petrolicious is still in business, though it is now labeled as being a vehicle for Bad Takes.
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Nice use if "vehicle" there, I chuckled.
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Guy who runs/founded that enterprise thought it would be a smart idea to share his thoughts on the BLM movement, equating the request for equality and ending systemmic police brutality and murder of black people to “domestic terrorism.”
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It’ll fit right in with all the other “automotive content creators” on YouTube.
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Stef ftw.
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Always seemed pretentious, never got into it, for once I made a good decision.
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Ooh, I could see Unborn Black Lives Matter being a unifier between the general pro -choice, socially liberal community AND the far right racist Eugenics people at the same time.
That’s an eerie Venn diagram of common goals.
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Yikes. I haven’t watched any of their videos in a while, and it looks like I’ll be keeping it that way
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Gotcha. Thanks.
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Pretentious ? Yes.
Still great vids though....
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“Libertarian” perhaps.
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Welp, guess I’m done with them.
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Thank s for the heads up. Unfollo wed!
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He didn’t say “no”, he said “no, not really”...
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A little better takeaway is whether our healthcare system thinks black children or black lives matter. Black women are 4x more likely to die during childbirth than white women in the United States. Wonder if that has anything to do with so many black children growing up in single family homes?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1595019/
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Saw that. so good.
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The thing with making racist jokes for the purpose of getting a rise out of people is that even if you didn’t wholeheartedly mean
what you said
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you still said it.
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No middle ground! Either avoid social media opinions, or if voicing opinion go full send one way or the other. This guy clearly chose his direction.
Next up: He e ither doubles down, or goes with the “I was hacked!” defense.
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Ted’s IG is great, although I am having urges to smoke cigars and move to Sardinia.
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What a clown. Hes already putting up an apology claiming he supports BLM and is not racist in any way on his instagram story...
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He already has one up on his instagram story and it rings terribly false
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Was this on their homepage, or on some social media platform I don't care to bother with?
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You say that like it’s a bad thing.
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No KPop stans? This isn’t a true cancellation.
Once KPop stans appear, you know you’re done.
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Instagram from what I can gather.
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Ah, yeah, I don’t do anything with that. I did have a Twitter account for awhile, but never used it and deleted it after the password was compromised
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Don’t forget the anti-abortion backhanded bullshit too.
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Curious as I haven’t checked, is there a General Sherman? Cuz I feel like I need to make a General Sherman.
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Was reading the “apology” they sent out - and the related comments on instagram (sigh). So glad the oppo community is far more civilized and forward thinking.
At least half the comments are basically saying “I don’t see any problem with what you posted”...so I’m guessing now THEY should be pissed off with the apology (as half baked as it is)?
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Hey! This is something The Drive is actively trying to change . We’re also going to start appearing in the comment section more often and try to engage with users more often. We know it’s bad and it chases a lot of people off the site, which is NOT how things should be.
Somehow they trusted me with a banhammer as of last week , so if you see something really egregious, warn it. DM me on the Twitters if you see something that’s really beyond the pale or notice a pattern of awful, demeaning, the-bad-kind-of- “ ist” posts from anyone . We’re paying more attention now and want things to be more welcoming for all.
On that note, mind sharing the link to the parsh scam story? Is it recent or was it a while ago?
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*sniffs farts* Ah, the sweet, sweet smell of fromager d’ affinois and obscure craft beer you’ve never heard of before.
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Ted was right on one thing: Afshin’s been at it before this. Via @charliedavisphoto’s Instagram story:
Voice of Europe is a far -right clickbait site , so yiiiiiikes: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/voice-of-europe/
(On the positive side, I’m finding a few more good parsh photogs to follow who are on the right side of calling this out today.)
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Some of its contributors have come out and said “holy crap, that’s not okay,” so it’s hard to say.
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I will say that they don’t have the best reputation among some of the people who’ve worked with them before, so that’s a thing, too.
It’s all pretty bad because higher-ups like this absolutely have an impact on which authors get hired, which stories get green-lit and who gets paid what they’re worth. Finding good automotive outlets to write for is like navigating a mine field.
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Ted Gushue disappointingly brushed off a lot of Afshin’s past behavior as “trolling” even though (thankfully) he said he found that post totally objectionable:
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That trolling claim doesn’t seem accurate, though. Maybe Ted didn’t pay close attention to Behnia’s Facebook, but Afshin sharing a hit piece from an alt-right clickbait site before these posts doesn’t check out as “just trolling,” though. Via one of the photogs who apparently had access to Behnia’s friends only FB posts:
So, Behnia posted a half-apology on Instagram, which reads more like he’s sorry he got caught.
I believe that people can change and do better, but this doesn’t really own up to the full history of some pretty toxic beliefs that people are uncovering.
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Friends-only Facebook posts, screencapped and posted to Instagram.
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Thanks for the new content creator to follow.
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This is an oppo post of a twitter post with a screenshot of a facebook post. Is there no better way to share content?
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Thanks.
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As someone else here pointed out, even if he was trolling when he said it, he still said it. At some point you can't take it back, and that like has been crossed.
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Turns out a while ago, because I’m bad at noticing things like that:
Regarding all the rest, that’s great to hear. Robb’s recent article was fantastic, but the comments section was a mess. I think you'll do great with the banhammer; wield it well! Robb encouraged me to pop in the comments more often. I think I will. I don't stray beyond the comfy confines of Oppo to comment places, but you guys write good stuff over at the Drive. You guys deserve a comment section that reflects that
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Want to be pen pals ?
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yes
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I really liked Petrolicous. I thought the videos were beautifully shot and their soundtracks were great. I didn’t really care for some of their stuff, too many Porsche videos and the owners were usually douchebags (especially if it was a Singer Porsche), but when they spotlighted regular people or families, it was awesome.
It saddens me that too many in the the car scene are assholes.
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Not the most important question given the current climate, but who’s videos will Car Bros paro d y now?
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Oh, I heart Banovsky. One of the nicest dudes around.
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Oh yeah! I remember that. That blew up on Rennlist before the blogs dug into it.
Robb’s piece was great and he’s an excellent dude for wading into it. There were definitely a few posters who got shown the door for misbehaving in that comment section, though. I looked the next day and the worst posts had gone missing.
I’ll keep an eye out for you if you’re around
for sure!